Concept
(xfire: jlid) 

Posts: 71
09:33 AM 19/11/2009

1. Add a admin panel or some admin controls: Problem players are always a pain but giving everyone the rcon password is also annoying. Could the a future release of the mod allow server admins to add guids to a .txt or .cfg file in the mod folder and give them a certian amounts of rights? Eg a few different levels of control from kick to ban and map change and gametype change?

2a. Map voting: Would the mod be able to include a click to vote map selection at the end of games?

-Or-

2b. Map rotation due to server population: X4 has a player based rotation on it. Would it be possible to intigrate this into the obs mod? When we have more players on 20+ we would like to play larger custom maps ;) (this option i think would be better)

X4 code from config:

//******************************************************************************
// Player number based map rotation
//******************************************************************************
// here you can set your server to use custom map rotations based on the amount of players
// on the server at that time. As more people join the server, the game will use a different rotation.
// If enabled this will kick in after the first gametype/map and is checked again at the end of a map
// to ensure the amount of players is detected before the next map begins.

// player based rotation global
// 0 = disable, 1 = enable, default = 0
//set ex_pbrotate "1"

// this is the maximum number of players before the server outgrows the SMALL map rotation,
// and switches to the MEDIUM rotation.
// It will automatically fall back to the SMALL rotation if the number of players drops to this number.
// min = 0, max = 64, default = 0
set ex_pbrsmall "5"

// this is the maximum number of players before the server outgrows the MEDIUM map rotation,
// and switches to the LARGE rotation.
// It will automatically fall back to the MEDIUM rotation if the number of players drops to this number.
// min = 0, max = 64, default = 0
set ex_pbrmedium "14"

// set your SMALL map rotation.
// Use it exactly like you would sv_maprotation.
//set scr_small_rotation ""

// set your MEDIUM map rotation.
// Use it exactly like you would sv_maprotation.
//set scr_med_rotation ""

// set your LARGE map rotation.
// Use it exactly like you would sv_maprotation.
//set scr_large_rotation "super large custom maps :D"

3. Server based presets: Add a command to the config to either use the default presets or to use a .txt or .cfg that the server admins create with the clan members personal presets!!! I know alot of people would like this feture!! ;)

Topgear
(xfire: topg3ar) 

Posts: 26
04:08 AM 20/11/2009

@ The admin panel thing, obs mod has reached its menu file limit so no new menu's can be created.

Mr.Game
(xfire: fragman2484842) 

Posts: 34
11:21 PM 21/05/2010

The map voting at the end is on many other mods such as ACE and Zombies. I think it'd be a nice feature too, but then again, I don't know if it'll take up to much (I can find/make the code for it to make it easier).

Also, the only problem I see with the map rotation based on # of people is that you may only have a small number of players in a server for a few hours and you will only rotate between a couple of maps (It would get boring very fast and you would potentially lose those people). Other than that, I'd say you'd need quite a selection of small maps for small amounts of players and vise-versa for large amounts of players.

EDIT/Add-on:

Regarding the admin-panel: Perhaps release two separate instances of the mod, one with the admin-panel and one without it. The only difference would be that the one with the admin-panel would not have the preset classes (That should take out quite a bit of menu's if I'm not mistaken, correction?).

Snakelet
(xfire: snakelet) 

OBS Dev 

Posts: 1330
04:15 AM 24/05/2010

Yeah, this has been discussed before, and because we don't support custom maps with weather cycles, let alone host custom maps on our servers, there is no point restricting the map sizing, as you said, too little variety.
 
Releasing 2 versions of the mod will also get very annoying, considering the amount of updates we release when the ball is rolling.

{BB} KnifE
 

Posts: 4
04:44 PM 01/07/2010

Hello, while I'm new to your site, Im not new to Obs .

I have a couple suggestions to throw out there for you guys .

The m21 for the predators weapon ... lose it .

Use the standard c4 hands as a template and skin them so the look like clawed hands of a predator, and instead of the c4 detonator in your hand, make it look like the little "box" the predator wears on his arm in the movies .

When you toggle aim down sights, make the little "box" have an aiming device, even something simple like a glowing iron sight would be cool .

For the secondary ( hands with no weapon visable ) perk option, no hands at all while standing still .

While running in secondary perk option, the c4 hands with claws again .

This way, when you see the hands, you know you are in primary, when you dont see the hands, you know you are in secondary .

Also, the "knifing" or knife skin ... lose it also .

Skin the left hand to look like the twin blades of the predator whilest slashing .

And last but not least, please, PLEASE give us the ability to cloak and uncloak .

I want so badly to be hanging from a wall and uncloak to freak everyone out, then recloak and dip away real quick, lol .

Maybe while uncloaking, have the eyes of the predator light up yellow for a second like the movies .

Basically, lets make the predator look like the predator guys !

Besides all of that stuff, this mod is by far the best MOD I have ever ran on any of our cod4 servers .

I have ran x4, Zombies ( awe ), paintball ( which is cool, but no auto rank ), and ace2.0 , and StarWars .

And if the "star wars" MOD can get away with making things look exactly like the movie, you guys should have no problem .

Also, remane the "possession" to "mind control", possession seems a bit wierd for a predator to accomplish, mind control on the other hand ... no problem .

Also, rename the MOD to predator, not obscurity, lol . ( in the server list it shows as obscurity, not predator like the loading screen )

All in all, great work guys, by far the best MOD out there, if you simply impliment the changes I have suggested , this MOD would be untouchable PERIOD !

( these changes are something that ALOT of our regulars are hoping for and have asked me to ask you for . )

So in closing, a few skin changes, and a couple of renames, and this MOD is untouchable !

Thanks again for all the hard work .

( I am an artist also, I will pencil up some sketches of the skins I propose and see what you guys think about them )

.

Snakelet
(xfire: snakelet) 

OBS Dev 

Posts: 1330
01:20 AM 02/07/2010

Have you considered that it is not meant to be a predator clone? If it was then yes all your suggestion would make perfect sense, but it isn't. We would have done it a lot differently if it was to be solely based off of Predator.

{BB} KnifE
 

Posts: 4
02:54 PM 02/07/2010

Ok ?

You lost me then ...

I was under the idea that this was supposed to be a "predator mod" .

Even reading the "about" ( https://www.obscuritymod.com/about/ ) it says the mod was based on the predator movies .

When the mod loads, it even says "mod:predator"

Now, I'm not trying to argue, please realize that, but between the "about" and the mod name ( loading ) I thought this was a mod about the predator .

If it is only "based" on the predator movie, then why even call it predator ? ( <---- while loading and in the "about" )

If your going to say a mod is based upon, oh lets say, fuzzy bunnies, would it not make sense to have the character LOOK like a fuzzy bunny ?

From a different angle ...

If this is NOT the direction your trying to go with this mod ( predator ), how much would I have to donate to you for you to make the small changes we are asking for ?

$50.00, $100.00 ?

I don't have a problem paying you for some skin changes/ name changes as I don't want to be one of those guys who recompiles a mod and changes it without the authors consent .

Would you be willing to make a few dollars and make those changes for the guys on our server ?

I'm asking seriously snakelet, I love this mod, we just want the "predator" to look like a predator, thats all .

Are you willing to do this for us ?

?

Falcar
(xfire: seamusthefamous) 

OBS Dev 

Posts: 526
01:22 AM 03/07/2010

You can thank your server admins for that deception, the mod "name" you speak of is the mod's folder name, which your admins have clearly set to "predator". Over in our servers it's "mp_obs299b" etc.

Snakelet
(xfire: snakelet) 

OBS Dev 

Posts: 1330
02:20 AM 03/07/2010

The about page says the original concept was based on the Predator movie.

Thats like saying...the concept of this mech was based on a bunny, as you can see it can leap and these huge ears can fire rockets as well as act as radar dishes to intercept enemy communications. Its like a bunny, but completely different.

There is no spare room for xmodels, meaning to add such things, other things in the mod would be lost. Also, to be honest making 3d models and animations that are good takes a lot more time then the amount you offer and we don't want the mods name changed. Obscurity is Obscurity, Predator is Predator.

You should spend that spare $100 and go buy Aliens vs Predator for some Predator action. It may still even be on sale on Steam...

{BB} KnifE
 

Posts: 4
06:26 PM 03/07/2010

Thats a shame ....

"we don't want the mods name changed. Obscurity is Obscurity, Predator is Predator"

Alot of the forum posts here are from guys wishing that the "obscurity" would actually look like a predator, and all those requests do is get shot down like mine do .

No one cares about a half human/ half possed spirit or whatever in the heck the "obs" is supposed to be .

We all want a predator .

The predator is cool, a possessed spirit is japanese "b" movie lame guys, seriously .

You have the opportunity to have the ONLY MOD or game that pits a predator against a squad of marines, not aliens, and you don't seem to care .

The only thing holding this mod back from being the hands down best mod ever to hit COD4, even eclipsing {PST} Jokers  X' mods, is the dev's themselves .

What you guys are doing , not listening to your forum members, not listening to requests, not giving the gamers what they want, is exactly why the FPS gaming world is getting stale .

If you search for "COD4 predator MOD" or just "predator mod" or "predator game" online, guess what comes up ?

Your website ...

So we all read your forward, get excited and happy and DL your mod HOPING to have and see a predator to fight against marines and we get a "possessed spirit" with a US ARMY issued m14 ?

You have to realize how utterly lame this !!!!

I know while your reading this, you will be saying to yourself "this is our mod,  it is the best mod ever, your a ...." but your wrong .

It does not completely matter what you think is "cool" it matters what the gamers, followers and forum members think is cool, and a "possed spirit" when we ALL want a PREDATOR is lame !!!

About the only thing this MOD has in common with the predator is the ability to stick to walls and the cloaking, thats it .

You could lose HALF the abilities, lose HALF the weapons classes ( like shotguns and spec op's ) free up your Xmodels, and put the effort into the predator .

I have read alot of the posts around here and have come to one simple conclusion ....

WE ALL WANT A PREDATOR !!!!

Is that clear enough ???

I'll say what the countless other forum members fear to say to you to "devs" for whatever reason .

I don't care if you ban me here or revoke my membership due to what I'm saying as you "devs" need to hear this as blatantly as possible !

WE WANT AN ACTUAL PREDATOR !!!!

You guys have 90% of the concept figured out, pull your heads out of your collective rear-ends and give us a PREDATOR !!!

You want to be superstars ???

You want to be the "best COD mod team ever" ???

Then LISTEN to me and realize what I'm trying to pound into your heads .

WE ALL WANT A PREDATOR !!!

You guys have a TON of talent and your screwing this whole thing up !!!

PERIOD !!!!

Be the superstars, be the best MOD'ers ever, BE UNIQUE !

GIVE US A PREDATOR !!!

GIVE US WHAT WE WANT, what every gamer wants !!!!

GIVE US A PREDATOR !!!

We all see what you guys are capable of, get it together and do this MOD right  !!!!

Sit back, smoke one, or crack' open a beer, or whatever, watch the original PREDATOR movie 500 times, and GIVE US A PREDATOR !!!!

!!!! RAWR !!!!

P.S.

I SET UP all of our servers, I named the original folder "predator" because that is what I THOUGHT this MOD was supposed to be about ...

Hate me or whatever, but you guys are missing the boat on this one in my honest opinion, and from what I read around here, the opinions of alot of others as well ...

You dont want to change "Obs", then use it as a basis and give us what we want guys .

Put a little pay-pal option on your site and start collecting a "predator" fund for that matter .

We all want a predator, not some hooky japanese "spirit" ffs ...

.

.

stimac
 

Posts: 3
08:33 PM 03/07/2010

Well i guess everyone has their right for the oppinion but still dont talk too much like you know what "all" people want cause people oppinions arent all like yours.

This game wasnt ment to be some kind of clone of the "Predator", but it was ment to be special like it currently is.

And for as much as i care you can call the game folder however you want but it will still be obscurity no matter what you do.

Yelling doesnt help you in anything and why does the name of the game troubles you so much?

It isnt ment to be translated as "a possesed spirit" it was there to show that the game can and will be diffrent and not so much connected with the predator itself (even if the original concept is based on predator movie)

The game is here to be played and not yell cause you dont like the name, and are you realy realy realy sure that changing the name will make it better? I dont think so, cause the game name plays very very small role in it, its all the action and excitement that attracts people (and maibe some adrenaline rush when trying to run away from obs ^^)

The game name should stay as it is for it to be less likely to be connected with predator cause it has evolved to much better game that  the predator will probably ever be.

P.S. This is mine opinion only and i think that everyone has their (and that it can be completly diffrent from yours or mine but thats whats the opinions are for to be said)

Falcar
(xfire: seamusthefamous) 

OBS Dev 

Posts: 526
12:13 AM 04/07/2010

I'm just gonna chip in with technical points every now and then, because I don't think any of my other responses to your ranting spam would be appropriate. You can't just "remove" things and free up xmodel spaces, cod doesn't work like that. And by "abilities" I assume you're referring to obs rifle functions, which are all coded and only use a minimal amount of slots towards the fx limit.

PS. If we followed every request on these forums, the mod would be terrible. Some are good, others are useless or stupid. Yours is one of the latter.

Snakelet
(xfire: snakelet) 

OBS Dev 

Posts: 1330
02:46 AM 04/07/2010

As stimac mentioned, this game is not a Predator clone. It is a basic existing idea, that was expanded upon to create our unique creature, and perhaps one day, story and universe.

Why isn't Sonic called Mario? Its the same concept, therefore they should look the same and have the same name. It is because the concept was built upon using different creative ideas to create individually unique products. There are similarities, but they are different and therefore they are unique in their own rights.

Pay us an *hourly rate for the time we spend making this Predator mod, pay for the *copyrights for the Predator licence and we will make you a good Predator game, until then AvP for you. 

You may say to this, "I don't want a feature game, just a mod" and I say to that...it is our time spent making these mods, and as such to keep enthusiastic about creating the mods/games we make, we need to be able to use our creativity and not be restricted by guidelines and rules.

Put simply: We create what we want, not what you want. We will listen to your ideas and if we don't want to use them it is our choice. Pay us a *huge amount of money, then perhaps we will throw out our creative freedom and take your ideas into consideration.

*Huge amount of money -
   •Hourly rates for programmers/game designers/graphic designers are fairly high. 
   •Obtaining copyrights to the Predator franchise would not be an easy feat.
   •Software required for making video games is also very expensive, so start saving.

{BB} KnifE
 

Posts: 4
06:27 PM 04/07/2010

Hahhaha ... you guys crack me up .

I was not yelling, it was a "rah rah" type chant, like a baseball game ?

I think you guys are a bit uptight eh ?

Maybe cause you just don't know me, lol .

I think you guys have done an excellent job with this mod dont get me wrong .

Everything runs smoothly for the most part, except the server timeouts or disconnects, only happens with this mod too, and I have changed the rate from 5000 to 25000 and everywhere in between and no difference .

Maybe it's because I'm American, I love the predator ?

All I was saying is the "possesion" could be lost, leave everything else as it is except skin the obs a bit different , and rename a few things, thats all .

The reason I say lose the possion is because it is a bit unfair, and not animalistic enough .

I , and most of the guys I game with, love to get right into peoples faces and take them out mao - e - mano if you will .

Not sneak up and cowardly posses someone trough a wall without them seeing you .

Understand ?

Anyways ...

I think what you guys did is excellent work, I just wished it leaned more towards the predator side, thats all .

Now that I know what the game is supposed to be about, and that is not a predator, yet an obscurity, I will rename the folders and redo the messaging and thats that .

No biggie .

So relax, it's the 4th of july, go have some fun tonight, and quit being so uptight, lol .

.

Falcar
(xfire: seamusthefamous) 

OBS Dev 

Posts: 526
09:56 PM 04/07/2010

4th of July means nothing over here.

Snakelet
(xfire: snakelet) 

OBS Dev 

Posts: 1330
01:48 AM 05/07/2010

We prefer to be stealthy, so having the options there for both gameplay styles seems to be a much better approach don't you think? Campers deserved to be possessed.

And the tone you took to express your view was aggressive, there is no doubt about that. We responded accordingly.

Summary of your post:
"You have to realize how utterly lame this !!!!
WE ALL WANT A PREDATOR !!!!
Is that clear enough ???
Then LISTEN to me
your screwing this whole thing up !!!
PERIOD !!!!
I don't care if you ban me here or revoke my membership due to what I'm saying as you "devs" need to hear this as blatantly as possible !
Hate me or whatever, but you guys are missing the boat on this one in my honest opinion,"

Your intentions were clear with your post, so don't try and turn it back on us.

Nomadic
(xfire: blake91158) 

Posts: 119
11:26 AM 18/07/2010

That had to be the worst rant ever Knife..... their the devs, they get to choose what to do, they do listen to their members, but if they dont like the idea, they wont include it, simple. and as for the predator thing, it was BASED on the predator movies, not COPIED off the predator movies, 2 very different words.

Ninja
(xfire: zacbash) 

Posts: 64
03:36 PM 24/10/2010

At first at all who don't want give someone a rcon password:

PunkBuster has a nice implementation called "PunkBuster RCon Facility". You can assign powerpoints from 1 to 100 to some GUIDs and decide which command can be executed with how many powerpoints. When everything is configured a player who has sufficient powerpoints to use the map command (must be configured) can for example type "pb_rcon map mp_farm".

This doesn't need any passwords, this works only on guids.

My suggestion for Obscurity Mod:

Please try to implement code, which try to hold players who are in the same squad  thogether in the same team. So that for example the Alpha-Squad doesn't play in Obscurity and Marines team in one round, they should always assigned to one team instead to both teams, whenever this is possible.

Freddy
(xfire: baraspitfire) 

Posts: 84
08:26 PM 24/10/2010

LaZzy
(xfire: LaZerAus) 

OBSmin (S Rank) 

Posts: 225
02:32 AM 25/10/2010

The mod already has a built in admin panel, and works just fine.

Your Suggestion to do with squads, If i understand correctly, you want a code that doesn't allow any of your squad member's to become an obscurity for at least one round?

That can already happen, and sounds pointless. 

Snakelet
(xfire: snakelet) 

OBS Dev 

Posts: 1330
02:53 AM 25/10/2010

If members in your squad, or anybody for that matter do not wish to play as Obscurity, just hit escape and click "Toggle Opt Out" button. You will no longer be selected as an Obscurity unless there is no other non-opted out person to choose from.

Now that I have stated that you can opt out of being chosen as an Obscurity, you can make a squad that sticks together and does not get split apart. As for carrying a whole squad over into the Obscurity team, that definately won't be happening in Elimination gametype. If you want to stick together, you stick together as marine squads only.

As for the power-points thing you described, it is pretty pointless for our mod. We currently have a built in admin panel that does this stuff and much more that can be configured on a per server basis as LaZzy stated. The admin panel does not require server admins to share the rcon login. It is based solely around the last 8 digits of a users' GUID, which is added into the server config. Currently up to 10 server admins can be assigned. Once assigned they will have access to the admin panel and all the features needed to efficiently admin a server.

This however is currently available only within 2.99d (unreleased), so for previous versions of the mod this powerpoint thing may be handy.

Describe
 

OBSmin (S Rank) 

Posts: 256
02:19 PM 25/10/2010

Fail rant is fail.

That's all I can say without blatantly attacking your intelligence.

Snakelet
(xfire: snakelet) 

OBS Dev 

Posts: 1330
12:29 AM 26/10/2010

I assume you are referring to the rant BB Knife had...

Describe
 

OBSmin (S Rank) 

Posts: 256
02:47 AM 26/10/2010

Snakelet
(xfire: snakelet) 

OBS Dev 

Posts: 1330
04:00 AM 26/10/2010

I was just clearing it up for everyone else...I knew who you meant