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OBSCURITY >> Bugs & Errors >> Contagion Stance

KuJIer
 

KuJIer

 

Posts: 10
10:17 PM 06/05/2011

Basicly (and I checked) when you have scent mask, Contagion special (which tracks people) can still track you.

I don't think it's like that on purpose :D

and another thing I would like to add at this opprotunity, the r700 doesnt kill with one shot for like 50% of the time (or even more and WITH stopping power) it's kind of dissapointing I think single shot snipers should be able to kill with 1 shot ( as long as you have stopping power perk NOT without it)

 

KuJIer

Phoenix
(xfire: warmourner) 

Phoenix

 

Posts: 75
11:15 PM 06/05/2011

in regards to the sniper rifle, there are two things you have to consider, first is the fact that for a long time now snipers do less damage at close range. this was in response to everyone being retarded and using them as shotguns, which isn't the point of them. so if you're trying to kill them while they are close up, you may find you won't kill them.

second, unlike vanilla cod4, obscurity has very noticeable positional damage - arm and leg hits do less damage, hands and feet do less.

Assuming you hit the torso/head with stopping power, and aren't as close as f--- to the obs, you're will always 1 hit kill the obs.

 

tl/dr: use a sniper as it is intended.

 

P.S: you'll have to wait for falc or snake for the contagion thing.

Falcar
(xfire: seamusthefamous) 

Falcar

OBS Dev 

Posts: 526
05:03 AM 07/05/2011

contagion is indeed supposed to track everyone, even if they have scent mask.

KuJIer
 

KuJIer

 

Posts: 10
11:28 AM 07/05/2011

About the sniper.... WRONG!

There is nothing to do with distance...I was at meanstreet2, at the start of the round I shot an ob across the map(!) and he didnt die(!!!) he also confirmed that I hit him(he yelled out hacker :D) so there you go.

distance is not part of the damage.

And if the stance can track everyone what is the point of contagion? I really dont understand.

And if you can somehow do what Phoenix said(distance as part of the damage) than please do it because it's annoying when obs doesnt die from sniper + Stopping power(as it is supposed to be).

 

KuJIer

Describe
 

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OBSmin (S Rank) 

Posts: 256
01:35 PM 07/05/2011

Distance is a contributing factor to the damage of sniper rifles.

https://www.obscuritymod.com/screenshots/dmg/r700damage.jpg

This picture illustrates how Falcar changed the damage of it. If you did hit someone at a great distance with stopping power then you obviously hit his arms or legs.

Locational damage has been a feature of the mod for quite a long time now. Phoenix explained the contributing factors to sniper damage already.

 

As for contagion - "if the stance can track everyone what is the point of contagion?"

That question seems to partially answer itself -

1) It can track anyone within a certain range;

2) Enemies (marines) that are tracked whilst using the stance deal less damage on you.

 

P.S.: I highlighted phoenix' post so that maybe if you read it again you will be able to see what he said about locational damage.

KuJIer
 

KuJIer

 

Posts: 10
12:27 PM 14/05/2011

I guess I can accept the fact that contagion can track everyone...

But on the snipers I won't give up(I guess I'll open another thread {#emotions_dlg.dead}), the R-700 is so WEAK, even with the stopping power, you can't believe how frustrating is to hit an obs from across a map and seeing him run and I don't want to hear that "you hit his hands or feet", that just p---es me off more.

Yes "snipers are ment to snipe" yeah good luck a sniper that doesn't do jack s***! yes m21 and dragunov can be spammend but answer this: why decrease the power of all the single shot snipers too?! it's completely ridicilous... since my last post I'm still p---ed over shots across map that don't kill, it happens daily, I swear only 1 to 8-10 shots kill it really turns people off on snipers.

I Really hope you can see my point.

P.S. Could't find the thread you were talking about Smile

 

KuJIer

 

Falcar
(xfire: seamusthefamous) 

Falcar

OBS Dev 

Posts: 526
02:37 PM 14/05/2011

Don't open a new thread, because nothing is going to be changed. The balances have been perfected over a good six months of daily play, and then tested over another two years. They are perfectly fine and the R700 is just as deadly as any of the other rifles, just ask phoenix -_-

Snakelet
(xfire: snakelet) 

Snakelet

OBS Dev 

Posts: 1330
03:19 PM 14/05/2011

Aim higher...it has been this way for years. The damage is locational, as previously stated. Therefore if you hit an obscurity in the upper torso, neck or head, they will die in 1 hit unless tanking. If you are having trouble try taking the Barrett.50 with stopping power.

Varatesh
(xfire: klemet15) 

Varatesh

 

Posts: 7
11:17 AM 16/05/2011

Damage seems slightly random considering a guy who shot me in the leg from 8-10 meters with r700 oneshot me =/

Falcar
(xfire: seamusthefamous) 

Falcar

OBS Dev 

Posts: 526
11:26 AM 16/05/2011

There's no random element to it at all, the circumstances must not have been how you perceived them (previous injury, lower torso instead of leg etc)

[RTX]Yourself
 

[RTX]Yourself

 

Posts: 54
12:34 PM 16/05/2011

There's no random element to it at all, the circumstances must not have been how you perceived them (previous injury, lower torso instead of leg etc)

 

lag also

Phoenix
(xfire: warmourner) 

Phoenix

 

Posts: 75
01:54 AM 17/05/2011

the R700 isn't weak lmao - its the only gun i use (phoenix preset is named that for a reason) and I almost always top. I rarely have have an issue with the r700 at range - it has a scope on it for a reason - aim for the head and the chest, and everyone dumb enough to stick their heads out dies.

Also, if you tag just pull out the deagle and gun them down - its works for me most of the time.

Snakelet
(xfire: snakelet) 

Snakelet

OBS Dev 

Posts: 1330
06:20 AM 17/05/2011

Good advice^

I usually rush Phoenix if I can pick him out of the pack. More chance of surviving vs his deagle than vs his rifle. Mostly fail still :P

Many things factor into where you tag, but the damage is accurate.

Basically lag, previous tag damage, stance, location hit, distance, accuracy and perks will all affect the outcome. Sorry to say this, but the problem lies with you and/or your perception/circumstances not the damage output of the guns.

[RTX]Yourself
 

[RTX]Yourself

 

Posts: 54
09:34 AM 17/05/2011

I know this like the most common question on the mod, but could you say some console commands thay can make obs be seen easier? :P

Falcar
(xfire: seamusthefamous) 

Falcar

OBS Dev 

Posts: 526
11:36 AM 17/05/2011

r_distortion 1

Snakelet
(xfire: snakelet) 

Snakelet

OBS Dev 

Posts: 1330
01:36 PM 17/05/2011

Other than r_distortion 1, the rest comes down to practice/good sound system or headset/hax, with the latter getting you permanantly banned from all servers running up-to-date obscurity if caught.

Falcar
(xfire: seamusthefamous) 

Falcar

OBS Dev 

Posts: 526
03:29 PM 17/05/2011

up-to-date all our mods you mean, I made it them all use a centralised ban list on compile lol

AzzDawg
(xfire: AzzDawg52) 

AzzDawg

OBSessed 

Posts: 129
12:07 PM 18/05/2011

I honestly don't know why you have so much problem with the R700... I have no issues at all. i do alright with it and rarely fail a long shot with it. If I do fail then it was a leg or arm hit and I acept that then kill the obs in another way. I never come on here and complain about the coding when it is obviously player error.

 

Seriously if you don't like the R700 or any other single shot sniper the solution is simple. Don't Use Them.

Snakelet
(xfire: snakelet) 

Snakelet

OBS Dev 

Posts: 1330
08:37 AM 19/05/2011

[Bypasses AzzDawg] True, but unfortunately nobody knows the awesomeness of HitLoc, which sucks because that mod is a beast!

Varatesh
(xfire: klemet15) 

Varatesh

 

Posts: 7
10:51 AM 21/05/2011

Hang on, there is a command to see obs easier, and it's "allowed"?

Snakelet
(xfire: snakelet) 

Snakelet

OBS Dev 

Posts: 1330
12:18 PM 21/05/2011

The answer is no...

r_distortion is automatically enabled on the mod to allow players to see the distortion shader that is used for the obscurity skin. If it is not enabled you will not be able to see him.

[RTX]Yourself
 

[RTX]Yourself

 

Posts: 54
06:10 PM 21/05/2011

wait... I am using a headshet :S

Snakelet
(xfire: snakelet) 

Snakelet

OBS Dev 

Posts: 1330
02:38 AM 22/05/2011

Banning was in reference to using hax not headsets...

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OBSmin (S Rank) 

Posts: 256
09:45 AM 22/05/2011

You're using a headset?? /ban

 

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